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Post by thx11ig38 on Aug 14, 2009 15:41:05 GMT -5
I saw this comment made about the Paul Pope strip published weekly in Wednesday Comics and it doesn't appear to be very flattering towards Tim, but perhaps I'm reading it wrong. What do you think? www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=218993. "Adam Strange." Paul Pope. If a comic called "Stinky's Junkyard Collection of Awful Unpublished Tim Vigil Pages" came out, and that comic happened to feature a single-page "Adam Strange" comic written and drawn by Paul Pope, I would buy it. The only thing I like more than retro-Silver Age DC sci-fi blaster gun/jet-pack action is the artwork of Mr. Paul Pope. And here we get it done bigger and bolder and more jet-packy than ever. |
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Post by WULF on Aug 14, 2009 17:12:52 GMT -5
I guess I don't get it either. Are they trying to compare Paul Pope's work to Tim's as far as skill level. I liked the art in Batman year 100 but give me a break Paul isn't even close to being in Tim's league, not by a long shot.
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Post by paperdragon on Aug 14, 2009 17:37:41 GMT -5
Its an insult, obviously this guy doesn't like Tim's work, but if mr Pope had one page in it he would suck a dick to get a copy. Some people think it makes them appear clever when they denigrate someone else in print. See how clever I am.  |
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Post by godless on Aug 14, 2009 20:40:44 GMT -5
Reminds me of the kids online who say things like "Morgan Webb has a man-jaw" or "Angelina Jolie has a fucked up face.". At every message board where 12-20 year olds hang oiut sooner or later you will see someone post such nonsensical bullshit to try and impress the other kids...and it seems to work. Two or three other 14 year olds give an "ROTFLMAO!" and repeat the bullshit line at a dozen more message boards and before you know it people at the bus stop are say "Morgan Webb...? Isn't she the chick with man-jaw?".
And the real kicker is that not a SINGLE PERSON IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD who says such things online is able to get a woman 1/3rd as hot as the chicks they are trying to take jabs at. If a beautiful girl with the exact same jaw line as Webb or the same lips and nose as Angelina started flirting with them they would die of shock and awe on the spot!
Same with Timothy whatshisface in the above article. If Paul Pope came out with a book intentionally drawn in Vigil's style this idiot would lap it up. He knows Tim has a huge following and does not do mainstream and that is why he went after him. He did not go after Marvel's zombie-artists or any of the truly bad artists working in independent books who have no following.
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Post by Tim on Aug 14, 2009 21:02:12 GMT -5
(Unpublished Tim Vigil Pages)...in all due respect i have done some awful unpublished stuff...
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Post by jainitai on Aug 16, 2009 7:50:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I think what that guy is saying is a dig on Tim. He's basically saying even if you had a crappy book full of Tim's worst work, he'd still buy it as long as there was just one page of Pope's work in it. Basically saying that Pope's work makes a crappy book awesome. Anyway, who really cares? Everyone is a critic. And Tim, in all of his great wisdom and humility, understands that it's true that even he's drawn some bad stuff over the years. It's not a big deal, really.
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Post by Stu on Aug 16, 2009 10:42:33 GMT -5
I kinda like Pope but if he was asked to do a page simular to a Gothic nights page he'd shit his fucking panties, take 6 months to try to draw one page and it would still look like shit.
Apples and oranges really. He probably never saw Tim's really good stuff.
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Post by godless on Aug 16, 2009 15:25:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I think what that guy is saying is a dig on Tim. He's basically saying even if you had a crappy book full of Tim's worst work, he'd still buy it as long as there was just one page of Pope's work in it. Basically saying that Pope's work makes a crappy book awesome. Anyway, who really cares? Everyone is a critic. And Tim, in all of his great wisdom and humility, understands that it's true that even he's drawn some bad stuff over the years. It's not a big deal, really. Not at all. Read this again: "If a comic called "Stinky's Junkyard Collection of Awful Unpublished Tim Vigil Pages" came out, and that comic happened to feature a single-page "Adam Strange" comic written and drawn by Paul Pope, I would buy it. The only thing I like more than retro-Silver Age DC sci-fi blaster gun/jet-pack action is the artwork of Mr. Paul Pope. And here we get it done bigger and bolder and more jet-packy than ever." He is saying that even though a book was primarily just unpublished Tim Vigil pages(which he would expect to be awful) he would STILL buy the book if only it had a single page of Paul Pope. Otherwise the joke makes no sense because if he would have bought and appreciated a book of Tim Vigil pages then he would not need the impetus of a single Paul Pope page. And yeah, we know not everything Tim has done has been of the same quality as his Faust and Gothic Nights stuff and I know Tim knows that but still that guy was taking shots at Tim as if he was like Rob Liefeld bad! |
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Post by jainitai on Aug 16, 2009 16:27:53 GMT -5
He is saying that even though a book was primarily just unpublished Tim Vigil pages(which he would expect to be awful) he would STILL buy the book if only it had a single page of Paul Pope. Otherwise the joke makes no sense because if he would have bought and appreciated a book of Tim Vigil pages then he would not need the impetus of a single Paul Pope page. Isn't that what I said?? Read what I wrote again: "He's basically saying even if you had a crappy book full of Tim's worst work, he'd still buy it as long as there was just one page of Pope's work in it." You essentially repeated what I said. I don't get it. You're confusing me!  PS - A lot of people rag on Liefeld, but believe it or not I've seen plenty of comic book art far worse. But he's definitely the poster child for crappy comic book art. |
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Post by crager on Aug 16, 2009 17:21:55 GMT -5
PS - A lot of people rag on Liefeld, but believe it or not I've seen plenty of comic book art far worse. But he's definitely the poster child for crappy comic book art.
what like the bloke stuff!
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Post by godless on Aug 17, 2009 0:49:45 GMT -5
He is saying that even though a book was primarily just unpublished Tim Vigil pages(which he would expect to be awful) he would STILL buy the book if only it had a single page of Paul Pope. Otherwise the joke makes no sense because if he would have bought and appreciated a book of Tim Vigil pages then he would not need the impetus of a single Paul Pope page. Isn't that what I said?? Read what I wrote again: "He's basically saying even if you had a crappy book full of Tim's worst work, he'd still buy it as long as there was just one page of Pope's work in it." You essentially repeated what I said. I don't get it. You're confusing me! PS - A lot of people rag on Liefeld, but believe it or not I've seen plenty of comic book art far worse. But he's definitely the poster child for crappy comic book art. Ah...my mistake then. I read it and came away with the interpretation that you were saying the author was actually giving homage to Tim or something. Maybe I should have read it twice before replying...8^( As for Liefeld...well, yeah you can dig through such titles as "Pre-Teen Dirty Gene Kung Fu Kangaroos" or "Epsilon Wave" and find worse artwork than Liefeld but then again, none of those crappy artists are doing Levis commercials or repeatedly being handed the reins of major mainstream characters(Like Captain America or some X-book). Guy can't draw(especially hands and feet or anything anatomically plausible) and his designs are even worse! Fucking harnesses and leg straps full of tiny pouches, giant stupid-looking guns and ammo belts criss-crossing the torso...on EVER FUCKING CHARACTER HE EVER CREATED OR DREW!? |
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Post by killju on Aug 18, 2009 20:19:36 GMT -5
NO FUCKIN SHIT!i met LIEFELD and hes a fuckin prick!also what the fuck i like the BLOKE stuff.LOL i know im a prick as well but im spending my hard earned cash on this company,and drawing along with alot of other great artist and my mate jason.I think people try to hard to be like there gods,sometimes a great review is a bad one and vica versa.SONOF6,THE HORROR ,TOMB OF BLOKE,BLOKES TOMB OF HORROR and next years ZOMBIE COMMANDOS/PSYCHOHUNTER/BLOODREIGN CROSSOVER!ARE ALL HOMAGES TO THE GREATS.sometimes people should read everything before they write,ive seen some of your things BITCHES but i dont critisize...i enjoy!fuck off liefeld i can draw a better hand in the dark.
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Post by killju on Aug 18, 2009 20:27:51 GMT -5
AND YES I HAVE DRAWN SOME LESS THEN LOVELY STUFF BUT IM DIFFERENT I DONT WAIT FOR PUBLISHERS IVE DONE THAT SO I BECAME ONE,GOT A LOT OF BACKERS AND MADE IT HAPPEN.AND TO THE GUY WHO SAID "like the bloke stuff"IF YOU MEAN MY BOOK...WELL IVE SEEN SOME OF YOUR FUCKED UP SHIT TOO,AT LEAST I DONT PHOTO!
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Post by crager on Aug 18, 2009 21:21:14 GMT -5
maybe if you looked at some reference then you could draw a little better,,
and yeah Im the guy who said that and I was given several copies of your books..
are you kidding a homage to the greats? really???
come on spend some more time working out the kinks..and dont send me private messages about buying my books to tell me they look good.
then try to rip me on the board..!!!
what a joke!
i was doing better shit in high school twenty years ago!
as far as the rob comments, I hate rob liefield, but you cant even do what he does..
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Post by crager on Aug 18, 2009 21:51:02 GMT -5
btw Im not the only one who uses photo reference..
how about the faust #2 cover
your heros even uses reference..
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